By David Biello
| The Hollywood
Reporter
'Raymond's' Ray Romano and
Phil Rosenthal discuss
remaining timeless -- and
hoping the next gig allows
for some liberal curse
words.
The most impressive thing
about CBS' "Everybody Loves
Raymond" isn't the fact it
survived a sluggish start to
stick around for 210
episodes, nor is it that the
lead and supporting cast
remained the same for all
nine seasons. It's that
star/executive producer Ray
Romano and creator-showrunner
Phil Rosenthal are still
speaking to each other.
Typically, success on
"Raymond" levels leads to
runaway egos, petulant
sniping and a departure in
the middle of the show's run
of the creator, executive
producer or both.
But even despite fielding
some lucrative offers along
the way, Rosenthal has
remained to the end -- and
he and Romano appear closer
and more respectful of one
another than ever. Ray
Richmond for The Hollywood
Reporter spoke recently with
the creative minds behind
the show to find out how
they've stuck together --
and what's next for them
down the line.
The Hollywood Reporter:
How does it feel now that
the end is finally really
here?
Ray Romano: It's a
little bit surreal. But the
weirdest thing is that a
part of me wonders why such
a big deal is being made of
it. We were never really
taken by the success of this
show, since the concern was
always having to make the
next show funny. There was
never time to step back and
be affected by what it
became.
Phil Rosenthal: For
the first time in nine
years, I get to lie down and
savor this a little bit.
It's like I just finished
this great meal in a great
restaurant where I was lucky
enough to get a reservation,
and now, I finally have a
chance to savor the memory
of every bite.
THR: Ray, you're
famously insecure about all
of this. Can you finally
take a step back and feel
great about what you have
accomplished?
Romano: My comedian
mentality won't allow it. As
a stand-up, my makeup is
such that half of me
believes I'm the best thing
that ever walked the Earth,
and the other half thinks
I'm worthless. I accept that
the show was a hit, but a
part of me has never really
bought into it very much. I
still think I'm kind of an
impostor.
THR: Phil, you almost
left "Raymond" the second
year after the Walt Disney
Co. offered a development
deal. Why did you stay?
Rosenthal: I knew
what I had here, and I
appreciated it. I was
writing about my own family.
When would I ever have that
opportunity again? The
answer always came back,
"Never."
THR: Why did this show
succeed?
Rosenthal: We were
drawing from real life
instead of from some
contrived version of it. It
turned out that our real
lives were relatable to the
lives of the people watching
us. Our rules on this show
were, No. 1, could this
happen? If not, it was
thrown out. You get a much
bigger laugh if you keep it
in the real world and then
take it as far as you can
go.
Romano: We purposely left
out anything topical to make
it timeless; that gives us
lasting power.
THR: CBS is still hoping
you guys will change your
mind and say you were only
kidding -- that you'll be
back for Season 10. Why end
it now?
Rosenthal: We didn't want to
stick around just to pad our
total. The reason we only
did 16 episodes this season
and decided to get out after
the ninth season is that we
were out of stories; we had
done everything we could to
this family. We were lucky
enough to be recognized as a
decent show and maybe one
that might even endure. We
wanted to preserve that
little legacy.
THR: What do you do for
an encore?
Romano: I'm going to
make a conscious effort to
freshen my stand-up material
and get out on stage with a
new act. I'd love to see a
good film script, but my
track record is a little
shaky there. I am doing a
voice for (Fox's planned
2006 animated comedy) "Ice
Age 2." And I'd like to
spend more time with my
family and on the golf
course.
Rosenthal: I've got a
lot of ideas. But I'm just
going to rest a little for
now. I'm going to force
myself to play video games
and eat a lot of food.
THR: Do you ever see
yourself doing another TV
comedy?
Romano: I don't think
I'd do another network
sitcom. Would I do another
show for cable? I wouldn't
rule that out. I mean, I
like to curse once in a
while, and I haven't had the
chance (on broadcast). So,
let me just take the
opportunity to say, "Fuck,
fuck, fuck." Maybe throw a
"cocksucker" in there, too.
